Acts 1:6-7 and the Restoration of Israel

In response to the recent posts on the land promises to Israel, Expository Thoughts reader Joe asked: “Did the leaders and teachers of Israel look for a literal fulfillment in the flesh concerning a fleshly, earthly restoration of the national government of Israel? Did Jesus oblige them?” To which Hip and Thigh blogger Fred Butler responded:

 

The apostles certainly did. In Acts 1:6,7, they specifically asked Jesus, “Lord, will you at this time RESTORE the kingdom to Israel?” Note what Jesus stated, “It is not for you to know the times or the seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.” This would had been the perfect opportunity to correct their “fleshly” inclinations about the Kingdom when in fact it was suppose to be only spiritual, but Jesus doesn’t. He says it is for the Father to know the time and the seasons of such things.

Well said. For more on Acts 1:6-7 and the restoration of Israel, see here. By the way, if you don’t read Fred’s blog, you really ought to. I’ve often thought that he has nailed the genre of blogging in a way that few others have been able to.

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12 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Hamp on July 3, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Someone should review Sam Waldron’s new book on John Macarthur’s pre-millennialism. Thanks.

  2. Hamp,

    It is in the works with me.
    Several posts of reviews, I may add.

    Fred

  3. Fred,

    Please let us know when you post the reviews.

    Blessings,
    PSL

  4. Wasn’t quite sure if Hebrews 4:8-9 had anything at all to do with this.

    Hebrews 4:8-9 “For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.”

    I don’t know if that “rest” would be tied in with having the land restored to them, if so this verse seems like an explicit denial… but I could be wrong so I’m asking :)

  5. Matt,

    Thanks for the nod and the link to “Hip and Thigh” blog. I agree that it is quite good. A great blogging example.

  6. Posted by Joe on July 4, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    I wrote: “Did the leaders and teachers of Israel look for a literal fulfillment in the flesh concerning a fleshly, earthly restoration of the national government of Israel? Did Jesus oblige them?”

    Fred in no way answered either of the questions, at least not in the English language.

    The correct answers are 1) Yes, the leaders of Israel expected a literal in the flesh fulfillment such that a King (the Messiah) would lead them into victory over the Romans and put Israel in the leading nation role.
    2) No, Jesus did not oblige them.

    Fred’s answer does not make sense. Btu perhaps I just do not belong to this special group.

    Guess it is time for you to end this “article” and skip to another one so you can pretend to have answered me well. Oh, and be sure to tell me at least once that I am not keeping with the subject at hand.

    I won’t quote scripture here because you pretend not to understand it by asking, “what do you mean?” As I have replied in the last article, the scripture is clear enough for you to understand what you are unwilling to accept.

  7. Joe, I’m sorry that you didn’t find the discussion here measuring up to your standards. Dismissing comments as “does not make sense” might satisfy you but it doesn’t fly here. I guess none of us “belong to this special group” since no such “group” exists. You are welcome to comment here anytime but please leave the insults at home (that for sure does not belong to this group). I will remove all subsequent comments that continue your current line of communication.

  8. Honestly, Joe, I can’t imagine how you could possibly come to the conclusion that we’re arguing for the restoration of a carnal political kingdom. Since that’s the standard misrepresentation of our position, I can only guess that you are simply repeating the words of others rather than reading us carefully and responding to what we’ve actually written. I would suggest that you may want to come to a more accurate understanding of our view before you rebuke us for holding it.

  9. Joe, as you can see, I have deleted your last comment. Please do not comment here anymore. Thank you.

  10. I deleted two more comments from Joe, seems he enjoys the wrangle but not being questioned on his slavish assumptions.

  11. This may be pointless seeing that Joe may not be back here, but I believe I most certainly answered his questions. Let me re-state his questions and offer a more clarifying response:

    First, Joe asks, “Did the leaders and teachers of Israel look for a literal fulfillment in the flesh concerning a fleshly, earthly restoration of the national government of Israel?

    Yes, as a matter of fact, they did. It is way beyond the ability for me to write this in a comment page, but all Jews had an expectation of a coming theocratic kingdom over which a messiah from Israel would reign over all the nations. Psalm 2, for example, speaks of this. This was the expectation of the Jews in Jesus’s day and they even saw his ministry as being a fulfillment of that promised, coming kingdom.
    It was not to be just a spiritual kingdom, but a real, physical, earthly one.

    Second question “Did Jesus oblige them?”

    If by “oblige” Joe means to say did Jesus set up that physical kingdom, well no, of course He didn’t. However, what Jesus did do is tell the apostles in Acts 1:6,7 that it was not for them to know when that kingdom will appear. God the Father has hidden the time of its appearance in human history. My point is that Christ’s words are rather telling. He didn’t correct the apostles misconceptions about a real kingdom for Israel by saying the kingdom is spiritual. He merely told them that it was not for them to know when its arrival will happen.

    Fred

  12. Posted by ivarfjeld on April 17, 2009 at 7:44 am

    Will Jesus come in the clouds of Heaven, and return to Jerusalem?

    Zechariah 14:4
    On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

    This valley is not there, this has not happened, not yet. «His feet» shall make a touch down. Paul explains that He shall come and kill the wicked one (or lawless one) who sits in the Temple of God claiming to be God. In the New Heavenly Jerusalem there is no need for a Touch down, neither to form a new valley, nor will the wicked one have a seat in Heaven!!! But be sure. Also the New Heavenly Jerusalem shall come as promised. http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com

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